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Episode 808 – Dr. Paul Levine, Dr. David Haines, Dr. Hikmet Jamil & Alicia Powe

Tuesday September 19th 2017

In this edition we introduce Alicia Powe from World Net Daily for the first time, bringing additional daily news updates on hot button topics. Following the news segment we welcome Dr. Paul Levine, Dr. David Haines and Dr. Hikmet Jamil for a multiple perspective round-table discussion about vaccines.


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38 Responses to Episode 808 – Dr. Paul Levine, Dr. David Haines, Dr. Hikmet Jamil & Alicia Powe

  1. David Haines September 23, 2017 at 8:42 am #

    Thanks to John B, his highly professional and staff – and all who responded above.

    The major objective of this episode was to provide scientifically literate members of the public, with a perspective on how exposure to toxicants, vaccines and other environmental cues encountered by both civilians and military personnel during wartime, may alter immune reactivity in ways that affect susceptibility to chronic illness. It was NOT our intention to advocate compulsory vaccination – especially for “captive” populations, including troops, school children and other sectors of the demographic. Drs Jamil and Levine have their opinions, I have mine – notice that there was considerable debate! I am co-designer of a vaccine (MAM-14/TOLOVAX) and certainly support responsible(!) use of the technology. This aside, I would have been dead of rabies at age 5 had I not been vaccinated following an encounter with a dog in Istanbul some ages ago. Certainly I’m neither a knee-jerk “anti-vaxxer”, or an apologist for irresponsible and coercive use of this technology.

    The most valuable message our team hoped to convey in this interview, is that although the type of toxic influences to which Allied and Iranian troops, Kuwaiti and Iranian civilians (the populations on which we performed our clinical research) – were completely different, several core features of immune responses to these cues were very similar – and at some levels, such as high levels of plasma cell activity, functionally identical. These similarities offer the opportunity for identification of novel therapeutic targets, for long-term management of at-risk personnel, along with Civil Defense and Military Force Health Protection strategies for mitigating impact of future conflicts in long-term health of affected populations. Indeed, the component of these studies done by our collaborating team at UCONN, Janbazan-BMSU (Iran), Kuwait University and Manhattan Eye, Ear & Throat Hospital (MEETH), has provided insight that enabled development of unique preventive and therapeutic strategies with application far beyond the scope of military medicine. These methods differ completely from most currently available treatments which often rely on small molecule mono-drugs that my be very effective in palliative abatement of symptoms, but do not counteract the root pathomechanisms of disease – and often have horrendously toxic side effects. We’ve used military toxicant effect studies to stand this paradigm on its head! The methodology that evolved from the work we discussed during the CTM interview last week, has made use of our ability to amplify cytoprotective stress response mechanisms (particularly those involving heat shock protein expression), to re-establish tight immunoregulation over a wide range of normal processes – such as inflammatory signaling cascades – which perversely, are often exacerbated by currently available treatments

    Bottom line on the purpose of this interview: It describes our inspiration by Isaiah 2:4. – in which warriors are admonished to “beat swords into ploughshares…” This is what we have done and we have done God’s work. We thank CTM for giving us the means to describe it to the public.

    Sure there was intense debate and disagreement on very hot button issues – along with some emotional reactions (as above). But… is this a bad thing? Certainly not! The intellectual fracas we were pleased to trigger, underscore the fact that science is never consensus and NEVER “settled” .

    Carpe Diem!

    David Haines, Ph.D.
    Faculty of Pharmacy, Department of Pharmacology
    Health Science Center
    University of Debrecen
    Nagyerdei krt. 98
    4032-Debrecen Hungary

  2. Bernard Straatman September 22, 2017 at 2:32 pm #

    What’s with the guy who keeps asking to end the interview? Please don’t ask this closed minded gentleman back.

  3. Bernard Straatman September 22, 2017 at 1:40 pm #

    California residents are compelled vaccinate or they cannot attend public school.

  4. Terry Lee Edwards September 21, 2017 at 6:13 pm #

    Doctors are Rockefeller-trained technicians. They do as they’re told to keep their licensing and profession. The vaccine theory of injecting weakened virus cells when your immune system is strong will build up an aggressive immune response is valid. Giving a vaccine to an infant that doesn’t have a developed immune system is criminal. Adding multiple vaccines for non-existant exposures, such as HPV to an infant, only protects them if they’re pedophilia-raped by an infected adult. Adding squalene, the body’s joint lubricant, induces arthritis later. Adding fetal parts, if they are not from your fetus, should be criminal. Adding mercury residue by cleansing the container with it, is criminal. Adding insect parts into this witches brew should be criminal and cannabilistic. Adding aspartame, a neuro-toxin of 3 combined poisons should be criminal – not sweet. Adding peanut oil residue to the brew will promote peanut allergies which can kill accidentally should be criminal – not excused. Adding ingredients to induce uterine fibroid tumors for population birth control should be criminal. Adding monkey retro-viruses to induce latent soft-tissue cancers should be criminal. Giving Lucifer full access to your blood and body will not guarantee our future health. God is the creator that loves us and protects innocense and our DNA and Lucifer is the destroyer that doesn’t care about us except for his exploitation of mankind with his global governance.

    • Terry Lee Edwards September 21, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

      I meant adding fetal parts were cannabilistic and adding insect parts is just plain bizarre.

    • David Westerhold September 21, 2017 at 9:56 pm #

      Terry – That’s a powerful comment, thank you for expressing it. Very well said and I totally agree.

  5. Barbara September 21, 2017 at 11:52 am #

    What a dîsappointing program of arrogant men, spewing ignorance. How dare they tell parents that they are erroneously blaming their children’s bad reactions on vaccines How dare they say that we should accept the recommendations of bribed and ignorant scientists, the corrupt corporate CDC and the murderous IHO. It isn’t just the mercury, aluminum and radioactive elements in the vaccines that are lethal. Add in the animal feces and sick animal organs boiled down into a soup then put into the vaccines. They have used tissue from dead animal cancer cells for decades but now they use, also, cells from living human cancerous tumors. They are literally changing our DNA. The vaccines aren’t just to kill us, though there is that agenda. They are building a planetary grid, a shield over the whole earth. That is one of the reasons for geoengineering. They need to maintain an ionized atmosphere. Many of the same elements that are in the aerosols are in the vaccines, like mercury and aluminum. Somehow these vaccines tie us into this world wide web. Some are calling it the Fence. This is why they want every human being vaccinated. Production of a sick population, sterilization, behavior modification, mood control, changed DNA and weaving us into the fence are the reasons they plan to make vaccines mandatory. This is why these toxic materials will never be taken out of the vaccines. They couldn’t care less about keeping us safe from disease. Vaccines ae not about keeping us healthy, which is why they are not ever tested.

    • David Westerhold September 21, 2017 at 10:00 pm #

      Wow, Barbara – a very strong statement, well constructed sentences and thoughts, and a very valid point of view, thank you for sharing that, I agree.

  6. Thomas Cool September 21, 2017 at 6:49 am #

    Humorous Vaccine Zombie Video by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger

  7. Thomas Cool September 21, 2017 at 6:03 am #

    We need to make more statues of people who deserve it. A couple new statues that come to mind would be statues of David Duke or Ernst Zundel. Build them so that they cannot be taken down.

  8. NAN KOLINSKI September 21, 2017 at 1:34 am #

    I believed the health care industrial complex was screwed up before listening to this interview and what I heard was confirmation of just that. John your patience was remarkable. There was a lot of agreeing to disagree. That must be the newest way to shut down discussion. Levine might have well just said “racist” to clear the room.

  9. Dawn noneofyrbusiness September 20, 2017 at 9:58 pm #

    Those 2 moronic doctors who tow the line for big pharma were such an affront to my consciousness i couldnt even listen. Next time get the other dr and dr wakefield together to take on these idiots. The one dr was so loud and obnoxious as are ALL people who refusre to listen to facts. That idiot actually said the PEOPLE reporting that vaccines damaged them are lying and that we should just lusten to the vaccine instate and the “science” The science is actually what shows vaccines are a trillion dollar fraud. I am a mother and i KNOW beyond ANY SHADOW OF DOUBT THAT VACCINES COMPRIMISED MY SON’S AND MY OWN IMMUNE SYSTEM! Some guy or any god damn person for that matter with two letters after their name will EVER be more right than a mother when it comes to HER BABY!

    • David Westerhold September 21, 2017 at 10:05 pm #

      Dawn, I can feel the anger, I agree with you. These “doctors” are arrogant A-holes. I believe that last sentence you meant to use the word “NEVER”, yes? Thanks for your comment.

  10. Peggy Lester September 20, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

    Alicia is a great addition, but her audio isn’t. Perhaps a headset would help? Her voice is very ‘grainy’. Thanks! Can’t survive without hearing you and your wonderful guests nightly John B.!! 😏😍

  11. Ron Scholefield September 20, 2017 at 9:53 pm #

    The Vaccine discussion was pretty good. We know the science worked for Small Pox and Rabies, but today’s mixtures are concocted to expand profits. The main thing I keep in mind, is that vaccines are made for profit, and those corporations who make vaccines and other pharmaceuticals, have one objective: To Grow the Business.

    Imagine Kellogg getting an assist from the feds, to help sell their cereal brands (with all of their GMO, glyphosate and chemical problems) to parents: “Your child must have have proof that they’ve consumed a Kellogg brand cereal for breakfast, before they’re allowed to enter the school grounds…” That’s sort of where we are with vaccines We’re moving from voluntary (a decision by the parents) to compulsory (a ruling by State).

  12. David Howard September 20, 2017 at 9:30 pm #

    I stopped listening. I couldn’t stand the one guy who was intent on shouting down anyone who disagreed and thought that on net vaccines as implemented today are anything other than a benefit. My research revealed that the industrial scale production of modern vaccines includes so many contaminants, and the product is so “mishandled” (Temperature, sanitation, ect) that it doesn’t matter what the science is, these things are dangerous.

    I turned it off when he accredited the drop in infant mortality prior to WW2 to vaccines, WHICH THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR WHAT SO EVER.

    I didn’t catch his name but he is unworthy of being called Doctor and unworthy of being on your show.

  13. Cornelius Whalen September 20, 2017 at 9:14 pm #

    Listening to a panel of MD’s argue over details of epidemiological research makes watching paint dry fascinating. Man, you can produce better shows than this – can’t you!?

  14. Kate Cotta September 20, 2017 at 7:13 pm #

    Hi all,

    I really enjoyed the last podcast, but ask that JB tries to keep Alicia more focused during her upcoming interviews. I have just been reclassed as a Xiennial and found her to be a bit distracted and unable to form a coherent nuanced response to any question that was prompted by John.

    I love that we are engaging young talent, but I hope we can teach by example and guide when there is room for guidance, given the format.

    Love CTM! I will always be a member and recommend to friends!


  15. Dennis Troy September 20, 2017 at 5:10 pm #


  16. Annie Woods September 20, 2017 at 9:46 am #

    check out re Autism “The Yeast Syndrom” by Dr Walker n Dr Triobridge prefaced by Dr Hoffman.. n in Nanaimo BC Canada Dr Cline Clinic who all have helped if not cureded Autism as a result of Yeast…which is a cuse of prescription drugs killing the good bacteria in your body. AMA ignores these results because at the time was/is a 900 billion dollar industry.. Amazing work these Dr have done n ignored. My health is a result of their work….

    • Annie Woods September 20, 2017 at 9:48 am #

      should read ..Dr Trobridge n cured…sorry no edit.

  17. Debra Trojan September 20, 2017 at 8:56 am #

    Watch Dr. Hillerman admit that the polio vaccine was
    tainted with a cancerous monkey virus and that he was
    worried about it causing cancer. But, he thought the
    public should not be told about it.

  18. TEX1 Flaherty September 20, 2017 at 1:41 am #

    The white hair doc that is brain washed is also a perv look at the picture behind.

    • TEX1 Flaherty September 20, 2017 at 1:52 am #


  19. Eric Butler September 19, 2017 at 11:04 pm #

    My God. I think todays lesson was……….Just because you have a D with an R after your name doesn’t mean you know more than some guy in a camper.

    • David Westerhold September 20, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

      Wow, I just watched the YouTube video that CTM posted above with Alicia Powe at the Trump rally. Awesome! There was a clear difference between the brainwashed leftist couple and all the other people, many of color, who could actually think and discern what is really going on. One example of the leftist’s hate and violence was the man who lived near Berkley and had suffered much violence and hate and vandalism. I wish I could have gone to that rally. My kind of people. Thanks CTM for posting it, and having Alicia on.

  20. David Walker September 19, 2017 at 7:17 pm #

    99 % of vaccines are BAD and UNNECESSARY. Big pharma has killed MANY holistic md’s and is profiting by killing us. Much of it is “THEIR” depopulation agenda. Some of these doctors THINK it’s ok., but most are indirectly bought off and brainwashed in school to PUSH pills PUSH vaccines.
    Patriots need to have a line in the sand. Cross that line and it’s gun battle 1776 time :

    If THEY ever even attempt to –

    * Take you to a camp

    * Take your guns

    * Force vaccinate you

    * Force chip or mark you

    it’s “get it on time !”

    Need “I” mention 🙂 none of the 4 things above would be allowed in …. wait for it ….. an enlarged Confederate States Of America for white Christian patriots ! BOOM !

    • David Westerhold September 19, 2017 at 9:06 pm #

      David Walker – I must agree with you. The average person and even doctors are brainwashed into a false belief in the effectiveness of vaccines, pharmaceuticals and so-called “cancer treatment”. I think that only the fully aware whose eyes are wide open will understand that what you say is correct, we must never allow any of those things in your list. Refuse, reject, rebel.

    • Dawn noneofyrbusiness September 20, 2017 at 9:59 pm #


  21. Original Larry September 19, 2017 at 6:58 pm #

    ROLAND: Thank you for posting the passing of Texe Marrs. I wasn’t aware of this.
    Try to keep your head on, and stay away from the Thompsons, if you get my drift.

    • Original Larry September 19, 2017 at 6:59 pm #

      By the way, Caravaners, every comment is moderated. Don’t take it personally.

    • sharonoliveria September 19, 2017 at 9:37 pm #

      John B- Guys, Why before comments start, or is it a comment entire body of typing shows nothing but letter’s with question marks appearing like this ????? on top of letters , I have found that appearing reason on many Video’s that won’t play or site’s, what is this a banning of these or some mistake I thought with my Computer until Now with only this small part showing ???? marks over letters, here I put my own Question to this?

    • ROLAND EDGAR September 20, 2017 at 4:26 am #

      LARRY: Welcome: This is a 19 minute video outlining the situation in Europe:

    • ROLAND EDGAR September 20, 2017 at 5:24 am #

      A written account of the situation in Europe:

    • ROLAND EDGAR September 20, 2017 at 5:40 am #

      The weekly meeting of The European Commissioners:

      Each one of them has been chosen for specific reasons to do a specific job: to obey Juncker who is working for Goldman Sachs.

      This is the heart of THE FOURTH REICH, the public face of the global fascist ambition: one central government. These people are very far from peace keepers…they do not care at all about the people of Europe.

      They care about their own bank accounts and their own genitals. Do not be deceived. In many ways the USA problems are transparent compared to these creatures who rule Europe.

      Meanwhile in NYC…

    • ROLAND EDGAR September 20, 2017 at 5:52 am #

      This short video is disturbing:

      Here European Commissioner Johannes Hahn cuddles up to the Ukrainian KIEV politician Klimkin.

      This recorded scene will be become significant in years to come. Most have seen the news reels from before WW2 where we see the politicians meet.

      We all know what is about to happen, the same applies here: we are watching historical events before a great social rift in Europe.

      Is Hahn a peace maker or a warmonger? He is Viennese and his team leader comes from the Austrian provinces. One again as was with Adolf Hitler, are the Austrians the key players in war making?

    • ROLAND EDGAR September 20, 2017 at 6:05 am #



      GET OUT and STAY OUT.

    • Terry Lee Edwards September 21, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

      That’s Jim Marrs, not Texe that died. Foul play? Sudden kidney failure and subsequent complications suddenly took him down and out. Maybe natural, maybe not?